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Just cannot get it

Postby Evan » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:55 am

Found this guy today at my dam. I cannot identify for the life of me. It was about 5-6cm long. I live (and found it) 100km north of Newcastle (NSW).

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Postby samehada » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:47 pm

stony creek frog Lesueur's Frog litoria lesueuri

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Postby Ann » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:53 pm

samehada wrote:stony creek frog Lesueur's Frog litoria lesueuri


Yep I agree! :lol:

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Postby Evan » Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:02 pm

Thanks alot, that was what I was suspecting, however the example photos I saw of it showed it having a huge amount of yellow on its underside (kinda like Litoria chloris).

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Postby Eipper » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:24 pm

I was fairly sure that North of the Hawksbury drainage they became Litoria wilcoxi?

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Postby Ann » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:55 pm

Eipper wrote:I was fairly sure that North of the Hawksbury drainage they became Litoria wilcoxi?

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Hi Scott, on the frogs site it says the following


The scientific names of Litoria lesueuri
Hyla citripoda (Peron 1807)
Hyla lesueuri (Dumeril & Bibron 1841)
Ranoidea flavoviridus (Girard 1853)
Euscelis lessonii (Fitzinger 1860)
Litoria wilcoxii (Gunther 1864)
Hyla (Litoria) freycinetii unicolor (Keferstein 1867)
Hyla vinosa (Lamb 1911)
Hyla kinghorni (Loveridge 1950)
Litoria lesueuri (Dumeril & Bibron 1841)

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Postby Eipper » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:15 pm

Ann,

There has been a revision of the L. lesueurii group since Cogger, 2000..whether it is published yet I am unsure.

Another example is Litoria nudidigitus....resurected from the synomy of L. phyllochroa.

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Postby Evan » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:19 am

So is it north of Sydney (basically, I am a lot north so it doesn't matter too much) that they become L. wilcoxi?

What is the reason behind splitting up the species?

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Postby Eipper » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:32 am

Evan,

Phyllogenetic differences.

Steve Donnellan and Michael Mahoney wrote the paper that was published in the Australian Journal of Zoology

I was fairly sure that North of the Hawksbury drainage they became Litoria wilcoxii.

My photos of L. wilcoxii are on the frogs.org site.

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Postby Evan » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:52 am

Yeah, I read that paper this morning.

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Postby Ann » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:12 pm

Very interesting! confusing, but very interesting! lol


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