Some pics to ID

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Some pics to ID

Postby kismetgecko » Fri May 25, 2007 10:06 am

These little guys are all frogs from just outside of Armidale in northern NSW. I've got some ideeas on what I think they are but I thought I'd see what others think. Sorry, the photos aren't great. This first one was only about 20mm, that's what's thrown me. The armpits and groin had orange/yellow colouring and there was some black mottling in the groin too.

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another one

Postby kismetgecko » Fri May 25, 2007 10:18 am

The yellow on this guy was brilliant. The belly did have black and white splotchy mottling with a grainy mottling beneath the throat. There was also a lighter line up the middle of the throat.
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Postby kismetgecko » Fri May 25, 2007 10:23 am

There are two of these. both different but I'm sure they're the same species. You can laugh at me if I'm wrong :P
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Postby Evan » Fri May 25, 2007 11:20 am

The first two are the Whistling Tree Frog (Litoria verreauxii verreauxii).

Do you have photos of the bellies of the rest?

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Postby Aaron » Fri May 25, 2007 12:04 pm

I agree with Evan, the first photos are Litoria verreauxi verreauxi, the yellow and back colouration in the groin is characteristic of the species.

The other photos look like Crinia species but I can't be sure which ones from those photos.

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Postby GrantW » Fri May 25, 2007 1:35 pm

First is Litoria verreauxii verreauxii, others I'd say are all Crinia signifera, but there is a chance the last one could be parinsignifera.

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Postby kismetgecko » Fri May 25, 2007 4:55 pm

Thanks guys. Yeah, I thought along those lines myself. I thought I'd check the first ones because they were so small. I assumed they were just young and now I'm confident of it. The second one caught me a bit because of the bright yellow. The others I assumed were signifera. The one in the second posting certainly had different belly patterning to the ones in the last posting too. I did take some shot's. I'll see if they worked out.
OK. Bad shot again but... this is the one in the second posting. I don't have the other ones. The others all had a grainy belly and none of that black and white splotching. Their bellies were more like the sides of the throat in this one. Don't know if that helps

Is the bright yellow on signifera common?
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Postby GrantW » Fri May 25, 2007 5:06 pm

Yeah that frog is Crinia signfiera, um I've never seen yellow like that on a crinia before, I dunno, maybe there is something wrong with the frog, but its a little hard to tell in the picture.

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Postby Donna » Sat May 26, 2007 10:20 pm

I thought frog three with the yellow was a Pseudophryne? Major?

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Postby Aaron » Sun May 27, 2007 10:19 am

Yeah I thought it might have been a P. major as well Donna based on the yellow but the head is fairly broad for a Pseudphryne species and from memory P. major is no longer thought to occur within NSW? In Barker et al. it is shown to just extend into NSW but in the recent edition of Cogger's it is entirely restricted to coastal Queensland?

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Postby Donna » Sun May 27, 2007 3:59 pm

We have P. major here, and we are definitely not coastal. Ours look a lot like that one, except they have yellow shoulders as well. Did you record their call?

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Postby Evan » Sun May 27, 2007 4:02 pm

The NPWS Atlas has no records for P. major in NSW, and all the distribution maps I can find for it have it contained only in Queensland, or very slightly within NSW. Certainly not as far south as Armidale.

The yellow spot made me think of Pseudophryne to start off with, but the snout is far too sharp.

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Postby GrantW » Sun May 27, 2007 5:54 pm

The frog in question is a Crinia, it doesn't have the right body shpae for a Pseud.


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