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TadPole ID PICS UPDATED AGAIN into Frogs

Postby harta123 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:38 pm

i found some tadpoles in a pond near my home a few days ago just want to find out what they are.

The younger ones are mostly a dark almost back colour. the middle sized ones are starting to go lighter but still dark, they have like a white line through the tail on each side and the bigger ones the tail is starting to go a transparent yellow colour. the tail of the bigger ones have a sort of arc to them and they are really FAT. big bellys, roundish body.

any ideas.

it was in an old park in a monument with a small moat with 20cm of still water.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301 ... 001014.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301 ... 001017.jpg
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http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301 ... ogs002.jpg

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Postby Evan » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:59 pm

You'll need to have better focused photos to ID them. Tadpoles are very hard to ID, especially by photo, so the photos need to be good quality. Make sure you camera is in macro mode.

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Postby harta123 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:03 pm

no prob ill try again with a good cam. any particular angles?

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Postby GrantW » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:04 pm

The angles you have are alright, they just need to be focused.

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Postby manicackel » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:04 pm

Cant id those taddys picture to blurry.

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Postby harta123 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:42 pm

Pics are updated, anyone know what they are>?

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Postby GrantW » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:52 pm

Pics are much better, where about in Sydney are they from? My first guess was Lim peronii, but they seem to be developing back legs, and that is way to small for Lim peronii, so I'd say it is Litoria denata.

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Postby harta123 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:53 pm

they are from a park in bankstown with a big bush section.

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Postby GrantW » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Yeah dentata are around that way, they've been breeding heaps after the rain, so its not unlikely.

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Postby harta123 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:29 pm

anybody disagree with this ID

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Postby samehada » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:16 pm

could be gracefuls

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Postby GrantW » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:25 pm

Not in Sydney lol.

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Postby Aaron » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:50 pm

Definately not gracilenta, unless there is a 'feral' population there. Doesn't look like Lit. peroni so probably either L. dentata or L. v. verreauxii.

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Postby GrantW » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:58 pm

There is actually a feral population of gracilenta in Sydney now that I remember, but its not near Bankstown, anyway yes I think they may actually be verreauxii, that or dentata like I first thought.

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Postby harta123 » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:01 pm

updated photos, i now have a few that have turned it frogs any ideas what they are?


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301 ... ogs002.jpg

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Postby Evan » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:07 pm

They're Green Tree Frogs (Litoria caerulea).

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Postby harta123 » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:11 pm

how big do green tree frogs get?

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Postby Evan » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:19 pm

Females will get a bit over 10cm. They are the biggest tree frogs in the region.

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Postby GrantW » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:05 pm

Wow, there Litoria caerulea! Sorry about the mis-id before lol. At least we know now.

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Postby Aaron » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:14 pm

Haha way off, for some reason L. caerulea didnt even occur to me as a possibility. Seems to be a few L. caerulea still around in western Sydney which is great.

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Postby GrantW » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:20 pm

I've always thought that verreauxii looked like caerulea, when I found some young hylid tads out at western sydney I was unsure whether they were caerulea or verreauxii and I'm still unsure which one it is today when I look at the photos. However I recently encountered some verreauxii tads in feild that don't look like those posted pics, had I seen them before that I may have thought differently :?


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